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[Epion3333]

Again I've changed ships! (Dom>Mega>Dom>Hype>Mega)
This time it looks as though Im staying. Im enjoying the dramatic increase of DPS due to the 425s w/ AM. Ive also just finished the lvl4 "Gone Beserk" twice (YES, they gave it to me TWICE!!) and the tank held up pretty well against 7 EoM BSs at once: 2x Death Lord, 3x Hydra, 2x Ogre.
The Missle Launcher is only there cause I wanted to fill the extra slot. Tried defenders, but they SUCK!! And with my optimal at 36km I dont need a Drone Range Augmenter.
Hardeners and Missles change with Mission conditions. This is obviously Serpentis Configuration.

Ive only got 5,600,000 SP under the belt, but im hoping to increase my DPS or combat effectivness with all yer help!
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CPU: 577/660
PG: 19241/19375
Cap: 6750 [290s Recharge]
Total DPS [Stndrd AM]: w/o Drones: 321  w/Hammerhead II: 440
w/Ogre I: 520
Total DPS [FactionAM]: w/o Drones: 367  w/Hammerhead II: 485
w/Ogre I: 565
Volly Damage [Stndrd AM]: 1958
Volly Damage [FactionAM]: 2252
Sustained Defense DPS [Serpentis]: 548
Effective HP:94,801
Max Speed w/ AB: 392ms
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Data updated for current config and skills.

[ganre]

how about getting
Mechanic V
armor repair systems IV
Hull Upgrades V
Weapon Upgrades V
Advanced Weapon Upgrades III(or IV)
Energy management IV
Energy Systems Operation IV

then get into a battleship, you NEED T2 hardeners, when you get to 10 million SPs, you'll probably be ready to fly that, but right now, i think you are throwing away isk, also, how many missions do you have to do to pay off one of those hardeners? Where did you get the money to buy all your faction gear? quit buying isk

[Epion3333]

  Buying ISK??? Are you crazy??

Well its pretty easy to get those Faction Gear. Every one listed I bought for 15-20 millon each. (I accually havent got 2 of the Cap Rechargers yet, but they are next on my list). And since I make about 10-20 million per mission, I can get one Faction gear every 1-3 missions from available item exchange contracts. Once I had to jump 17 gates away to get my first SS Thermal. (No low sec thank god...I wouldn't do it.) I even have a SS EM Hardener. lol.

So please don't accuse those who play the game faithfully that they buy ISK. If you don't know the item prices and profit from LVL 4 missions (YOU SHOULD....) then refrain from even posting!

Why is it when all I ask are simple suggestions to help the ship setup, all I get is "Your Lying" or "You shouldn't be in a BS" ? Here is my Hype setup. Same thing: http://www.battleclinic.com/forum/index.php/topic,15081.0.html
I am in a BS Im doing the lvl 4 missions, Im making money, Im having fun, and I havent lost a ship.
So PLEASE help constructivly and focus on the ship? I would appreciate it.
 
Also I have :
Mechanic IV
Armor Repair Systems IV
Hull Upgrades IV
Weapon Upgrades IV (doing 5 right now..... 9 days Left....  )
Energy managment IV
Energy Systems Operation IV

(Almost every needed skill is AT lvl 4, All learning skills lvl4. )

[simo98]

ya i am kind of sick of the whole 'you shouldn't be in a BS' thing,  i dont have much more SP than u (im still in a BC tho still saving for my raven).  give the guy a break, its not like one of those super nooby ships, its a normal fit, so give the guy some advice about YOU would fit YOUR ship and let him train up for it if he has to.

[Epion3333]

Finally, some support. Thanx simo98.

Well I just finished "Recon 1of3". Bought in about 18 million. I bought a Dark Blood RCU for 10 million. It gave me enouph PG to equip Cruise Missile Launchers. Im training Heavy Missles 3 tonight so that tommorow I can start concentrating on Cruise Missles Skill. Checked EFT and with CruiseM at lvl 4 the DPS would pretty much equal one of my Rails.

Errrr......I didn't realize that to use Cruise Missles you had to have Missile Launcher Operation V. grrrr. Well, its not all bad since it only will take 5 days.

[Turelle]

this setup looks good for someone with fairly low skills, though it costs quite alot (i fit my domi with T2 and no faction) it looks like it'd be quite effective.

apart from the obvious, you need to get at least a T2 repper for the extra rep amount, then if you find yourself a little short on resistances for a mission get T2 hardeners. They are well worth it. Also your drones might want a change. have 5 or more light drones to kill off the frigates and destroyers. fill the rest of the drone bay with mediums (or heavies if you really want them).

I personally prefer 2 reps on most of my ships (for pvp and missions alike) as they give it that bit extra surviveability or time to get out.

I like the setup, not much wrong with it and a very good try from someone with 3.6m SP.
I'll give it a thumbs up.

[Wheezal]

you dont need an afterburner on a sniping ship.  perhaps a sensor booster or tracking computer to help your guns out a bit more.  otherwise it's a pretty solid setup.

if the cruise launcher is jsut extra, maybe swap it out with something smaller so you can use it against NPC inty's or frigates that get inside your guns tracking.

[Epion3333]

apart from the obvious, you need to get at least a T2 repper for the extra rep amount, then if you find yourself a little short on resistances for a mission get T2 hardeners. They are well worth it. Also your drones might want a change. have 5 or more light drones to kill off the frigates and destroyers. fill the rest of the drone bay with mediums (or heavies if you really want them).

hmmm...Im a bit Confused....how are T2 hardeners better than Faction? Ive looked at both and the only difference is CPU usage. Faction 16 / T2 36. Both are 55% Resist. I couldnt even fit the T2 even if I wanted to.

I completely agree with the Rep and Drones aspect. Im saving up for a Shadow Serpentis Large Rep. Would give me a Sustained incoming DPS of 514. I couldnt fit 2 Reps, and so far I havent needed it, but If I can fit it in in the future I will.

My Ogres to have a bit of trouble with frigates, so Im going to spend the 6 days of skill training to get the Medium T2 Drones. Im accually going to list it now in the Fitting cause it wont be too long before it becomes reality.

you dont need an afterburner on a sniping ship.  perhaps a sensor booster or tracking computer to help your guns out a bit more.  otherwise it's a pretty solid setup.

if the cruise launcher is jsut extra, maybe swap it out with something smaller so you can use it against NPC inty's or frigates that get inside your guns tracking.

Well, Im not a sniping ship. My normal range is 33-36km. So the AB is really needed to catch those damned BSs that like to be way out at 50+km, and to decrease the time traveling between loot.
My Drones take care of the frigates that annoy me so using a smaller Missile Launcher is almost unnessesary. However, if the Cruise Missles dont make the grade, then I may take that idea into consideration.

Thanks for the help so far!

[Slider462]

you dont need an afterburner on a sniping ship.

1. This isnt a sniper. Optimal range is 34k like he said in the first post. So he should keep the afterburner...get in range quicker...finish mission quicker = more ISK per hour.

perhaps a sensor booster or tracking computer to help your guns out a bit more.

2. Sensor Booster in no way helps with Damage or Tracking....learn your modules. (Tracking Computer would be helpful)

if the cruise launcher is jsut extra, maybe swap it out with something smaller so you can use it against NPC inty's or frigates that get inside your guns tracking.

2. Any Gallente player, in a Gallente BS should have their drone skills to the point where just drones alone can take out a few NPC frigs. (Although I personally would use Hammerhead IIs for anti-frig, Ogres tend to be sloooooow)



On a final note. Although expensive, this setup looks good

[Cypress Cavalero]

 you dont need 10 mill sp to fly lvl4 missions!!! ive done fine since around 2-3 milion sp.
good fit mate i like it, also  fi you have the skills to fit t2, STILL fit faction everytime,lower cpu than t2 for the same effect(or better for some factions) if you dont plan on loosing dont gimp the ship by fitting t2 on cos it has a number 2 on the picture lol.
My mission domi is t2 fit cos i had  enuff cpu spare, im not fitting 425 protos tho and they eat pg and cpu.
i have been looking for a mega pve fit for something to do out of boredeom so i may well try this out, nice work. wil prolly fit a tracking comp with 2 scripts in cargo for guristas at rang or things in close and faxt tacking.
Good fit thumbsed up.

[ganre]

T2 gear is better because it is cheaper, less overhead=fast profit, and it still works, AB, even if you don't use it while fighting, getting from point A to point B faster in a missions = faster missions, more missions done, more $$

[Wheezal]

you dont need an afterburner on a sniping ship.

1. This isnt a sniper. Optimal range is 34k like he said in the first post. So he should keep the afterburner...get in range quicker...finish mission quicker = more ISK per hour.

yeah, i didnt read the first post so well, my bad.  usually i see rail guns on a thron and i think sniping for missions.  i prefer blasters with t2 ammo for range myself so i just get stuck in that mindset.

perhaps a sensor booster or tracking computer to help your guns out a bit more.

2. Sensor Booster in no way helps with Damage or Tracking....learn your modules. (Tracking Computer would be helpful)

well this is just nit-picky.  i obviously  meant to add some versatility to the mid-range slots.  i know my modules just fine and i know sensor boosters dont help guns themselves.  i meant it as a way to help target things faster and help in combat overall.

if the cruise launcher is jsut extra, maybe swap it out with something smaller so you can use it against NPC inty's or frigates that get inside your guns tracking.

2. Any Gallente player, in a Gallente BS should have their drone skills to the point where just drones alone can take out a few NPC frigs. (Although I personally would use Hammerhead IIs for anti-frig, Ogres tend to be sloooooow)

i wasnt talking about drones, i was referring to the extra launcher he had.  it was just an idea.  as a Gallente w/ 32 mil sp myself, i know how to use drones.  i was just throwing something out there to try and help.  to me, a single extra cruise launcher doesn't make much sense and i thought he should experiment with another high slot option.

holy cow, i dont know how to post or something...sorry for the messy reply.

[Epion3333]

T2 gear is better because it is cheaper, less overhead=fast profit, and it still works, AB, even if you don't use it while fighting, getting from point A to point B faster in a missions = faster missions, more missions done, more $$

Personally its up to how you play and how much ISK you make. Faction has one thing that makes the whole discussion mute: Faction gear has LESS requirements then T2 gear. So low skill players (like me) can use high quality gear without the exstensive skill req. So what if I had to pay 20mil per hardener.? Its worth it in the end!

Just a heads up, Ive finally got a Shadow Serpentis Large Armor Repairer for 35mil. (Jita seems to have ALOT of good contracts. Ive gone out there 4 times now. [15 jumps])

Im loving my Megathron more and more as I raise my skills. I did "Gone Beserk" AGAIN, but this time I finished in in 35 minutes! (Took 40min to loot though....)

Would it be worth using LP to get Federation Navy AntiMatter Charges? Its a bit pricy, but it seems to do alot more dmg.

[pane]

Yeah the whole noobs shouldn't be missioning in battleships discussion is so... 2002? Dunno if it made sense back then.

A bigger ship is easier to tank. And you'll never do LESS damage by flying a bigger ship.

[MrCue]

Would it be worth using LP to get Federation Navy AntiMatter Charges? Its a bit pricy, but it seems to do alot more dmg.

I use faction ammo for PvP, not sure about its cost effectiveness in PvE
Have you done the maths, how many rounds of ammo does the mission usually take, how much is the faction ammo going to cost.